Question:
Vegetarians if you dont eat meat because killing animals is wrong think if we didn't breed certain animals...?
Me
2012-07-24 05:50:18 UTC
Such as chickens for example, they would go extinct because if farmers get no profit they won't protect them at which time they will be hunted freely and killed, what is your conter argument.
I am against animal cruelty by the way I just don't see why not eating meat helps this situation
Thirteen answers:
2012-07-26 14:35:26 UTC
I showed off my **** to my cow of a new wife not three hours ago for the first time. She was so apolled, she cut its head clean off with a stake knife! The funny thing was, it kept on floppin' around for near five minutes before finally calmin' down, the whole time blood drained from its stump of a neck. I won't be showin' off my **** any time soon, that's the truth
?
2012-07-24 22:09:06 UTC
So?



If meat chickens - the kind of chickens that have been bred to grow explosively in only six weeks - go extinct, that would be doing them a favour. These poor creatures balloon in such a short time that their legs are unable to support them and they are prone to serious cardiac difficulty and a myriad of other health problems. Letting them go extinct is the kindest thing we could do for these pathetic animals that are our creation.



The threat of extinction is no excuse to breed animals and make them suffer just so that I can get my chicken nuggets at bargain prices.
potato-fiend
2012-07-24 09:18:32 UTC
True, but this wouldn't have happened if humans hadn't bred animals to a ridiculous point. Selective breeding has raised all manners of health issues in farm animals such as pigs, cows and chickens. Pigs shouldn't be overweight, bald and lazy, that's the effect of selective breeding. Cows also shouldn't be so ridiculously overweight, and shouldn't be producing such vast quantities of milk.



If these animals could live a natural life they'd be fine, but the effects of selective breeding, over-feeding and hormones will always be there. Cows and pigs would be okay if they returned to an ordinary weight, and weren't fed with so chemicals and hormones.



This is a healthy-ish pig: http://www.clipart.dk.co.uk/DKImages/farm/image_farm004.jpg

Now compare that to this: http://s3.amazonaws.com/picable/2010/07/02/1950242_A-Big-Fat-Pig_620.jpg

Or this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2937420329_3b85bfed29.jpg



Pigs are quite clean animals by nature. Do you think they enjoy wallowing around in their own feces?



Here's a healthy cow: http://farm1.staticflickr.com/160/385648030_edad6436b3_z.jpg?zz=1

Now look at this: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Luku0JGtUpw/T8Y91cx-mZI/AAAAAAAAGYY/cqH5BTSgjIE/s1600/fat_cow.jpg

Or this: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091015184859/uncyclopedia/images/9/9f/Fatcow.jpg



If livestock were returned to a healthier state before being released into the wild they'd do fine. I don't have an issue with foxes or wolves hunting, but I do have an issue with how incredibly sick the dairy and meat industry is.



Edit: Of course, humans could always use selective breeding to attempt to return these animals to their former glory.



Edit: @Yuki Asakura, you can't ignore an entire argument on the basis that you think it's 'mad'. It's ******* stupid, and just makes you look like a little whiny **** wit.
too.muchtv
2012-07-24 10:26:12 UTC
The chickens would have been fine if we left them alone. Chickens were domesticated by Chinese, but before that they were wild animals, capable of taking care of themselves, just like any other animal out there. Domestication made the animals unable to survive on their own because we sought out certain traits and encouraged them.



It's pretty hard to reverse what we did, but that doesn't make it any more ethical to raise them just so that we can kill them. The chickens don't lead happy little lives prior to being killed. If you read The Time Machine, are the Eloi better off because the Morlocks keep them alive?



Some species survive while other species emerge. It's just nature. We interrupted nature, and removed their role from the environment, and some other animal took over. I'm not saying to kill them off, but we can't keep every species alive, just to say that they're alive.
?
2012-07-24 07:59:20 UTC
All these answerers are so bad so far. Don't listen to them.



In some way I see what you're saying, but you gotta remember, lots of chickens are being treated very poorly and don't want to be treated that way. You could also have laws against illegal hunting of chickens as a counter argument against your statement of people freely killing chickens. Organic chickens that are antibiotic free, no pesticides, etc. are treated fairly well. Buy your chicken from Applegate Farms at Whole Foods. It's very pricey. But it's worth it.



Also, no beef. Cows are considered your MOTHER in hinduism. You may be severely punished by god. Don't do it.
?
2016-07-23 10:49:27 UTC
I feel essentially the most intelligent reply could be that: crops can also be categorized as 1 celled organisms. That is, they have got just one feel - consider. Animals then again have 5 senses. Despite the fact that being vegan is comfortably ingesting naturally reliable and nutritious chemicals, people more often than not argue that crops additionally believe anguish when killed. A different answer to that (excuse my sadist procedure) however taking away all religious aspects from it, Piercing a sharp knife into your hand OR Piercing a pointy knife into your eyeball, tongue, throat, ears, nostril and fingers - Which one would you select? Vegans can justify their consuming of plants with the fact they want to fulfill their stomachs with minimal ache instead than causing maximum ache through killing a different 5 sensed organism to fill your belly. :)
?
2012-07-24 13:10:52 UTC
how can you possibly think that raising them to confine, overwork, steal from and eventually kill them is better than extinction.



why would a life of misery be better than just simple non existence?



this argument always amazes me so your saying given the choice you would choose to live with 30000 other people confined in 1 shed, among all there poop, fed an unnatural diet to become so fat you could barely walk, stressed and in some kind of pain for your entire life rather than not being born at all?



the funny thing is we endanger wild creatures by clearing land to build factory farms to keep a species alive that otherwise would be extinct just to kill it on a daily basis.
2012-07-24 07:10:38 UTC
I have no counter argument, because you don't seem to know much about reality.

Do you really think ethical vegetarians favor animals being "hunted freely and killed", at least by humans?



You're "against animal cruelty", yet you EAT ANIMALS?

Howzat work?



Not eating meat means, uh, NOT PAYING FOR ANIMAL DEATH.



EDIT: I differentiate between animals being killed by other animals FOR THEIR SURVIVAL, as opposed to by humans FOR THEIR HABITS. The question is absurd because millions of people aren't going to go vegetarian at once. If they did, it wouldn't necessitate releasing chickens into the wild- I would say that people could more than afford to take care of the animals they'd-otherwise spend money on eating, on a societal level.
?
2012-07-24 05:59:33 UTC
No, if we didn't breed farm animals, they would live their life out in the wild like any other animal. If they go extinct on their own, that's that, just like dinosaurs and megalodons and every other extinct species.
byrdland5d@btopenworld.com
2012-07-24 14:44:24 UTC
hmmn interesting hypothesis chickens would go extinct if we stopped eating them, but theres one minor flaw in ytour logic we dont eat humans and there are plenty of them
2012-07-24 09:38:37 UTC
This is not a question honestly, it's quite cheeky, we all have our opinion. However this is challenging it, if you think this then fine...Even if it's the case you, should probably keep that to yourself.
GP1500
2012-07-24 06:15:47 UTC
Your question/statement is all over the place. Maybe you can draw a picture to explain your point. Please use lots of blue I like blue.
?
2012-07-24 05:54:24 UTC
just give up trying to reason with these people, they're mad people with an agenda to convert the world.


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